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greetings and salutations

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a trained derailment occurred on

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February 3rd 2023 at 8 55 PM Eastern

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Standard Time

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when 38 cars of a Norfolk Southern

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freight train carrying extremely

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hazardous materials derailed in East

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Palestine Ohio several rail cars burned

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for more than two days and eventually

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emergency crews then conducted what is

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called a controlled burn of several rail

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cars at the request of State officials

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this released hydrogen chloride and

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phosgene and other harmful contaminants

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into the air

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only the residents living within one

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square mile of the Burnside were

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actually evacuated but just two days

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later they were told it was safe to

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return home

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safe that's what they said

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but is it really safe initial testing of

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the water was conducted by a third party

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contractor hired by Norfolk Southern

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however the tests were conducted in a

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way that did not comply with EPA testing

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standards so what about the EPA what did

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they say

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well the EPA said that their own testing

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said that the air and water near the

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crash site was safe

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however some independent researchers

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from Texas A M using the same data found

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elevated levels of some nine pollutants

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or contaminants that can lead to

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long-term health problems including

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cancer

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it's important to note that the EPA has

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a terrible track record of just showing

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up at a disaster site rushing to say

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that there's no problem

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uh and then they leave the communities

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without any support that happen in

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Manhattan after 9 11 it happened in

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Flint Michigan and it appears to be

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happening here as well

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East Palestine residents have filed

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multiple lawsuits against Norfolk

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Southern

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however the courts move incredibly

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slowly and it will likely be years and

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years before we see the results of those

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lawsuits

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but even if they lose every court case

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and pay some settlements

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it's likely that this will not affect

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them

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this company apparently treats payouts

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for destroying whole towns as routine

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and just the cost of doing business

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they've done it before

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in 2005 Norfolk Southern fought

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accountability for another equally

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devastating and dangerous disaster that

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they caused in South Carolina

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that disaster killed nine people and

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left over 500 people hospitalized

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what was the cost of the disaster well

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for northern southern it was a very

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small price to pay

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they paid 4 million in government fines

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and 10 million in settlements to

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Residents but that is a very small

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fraction most experts say of the funds

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that it would actually take to really

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cover the harm that they caused to that

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Community its residents and its

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ecosystems long-term future

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so they just paid 14 million dollars for

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the last town that some would say that

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they completely destroyed all those

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lives lost health Lost and suffering of

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its residents 14 million dollars is

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nothing to a 55 billion dollar company

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it's like you or I having to pay a 25

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traffic ticket it's a slight annoyance

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but it's just not a big deal Norfolk

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Southern is a 55 billion dollar company

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and what's really sad is that this

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latest environmental disaster as well as

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the human health disaster that they

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created in the East Palestine

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will barely affect them

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I checked and it seems as if their stock

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price hasn't taken a huge Dive In fact I

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talked to two separate stock market

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brokers who told me that right now would

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be a great time to buy their stock

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during this slight dip it just took

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but both these stock market

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professionals predicted that the stock

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price will be back to a higher than ever

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price per share in the next quarter

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here we have some Drone footage showing

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some of the early cleanup efforts in

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East Palestine and Company officials

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assured everyone since this began that

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the air and the water were safe

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new independent studies are starting

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and some of them may show that Norfolk

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Southern and others were incorrect in

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their previous statements it's hard to

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tell just what the long-term effects

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will be on the air water plants animals

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and especially the people who live in

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that area and have chosen to continue

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living in that area long term

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I'm not an environmental scientist so I

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can't explain to you how the EPA in

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Norfolk Southern can assure everyone

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that the water in the air is safe when

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more than 43 000 animals most of them

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fish have died in and around East

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are all these dead animals not a sign of

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hazardous chemical agents in the air

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water or soil in their environments the

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proverbial Canary in the coal mine

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and one might ask themselves if this

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environment is killing thousands no tens

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of thousands of animals how can that

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very same environment that is killing

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off all these animals somehow be

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completely safe for humans the truth the

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sad truth is it can't it's not safe

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and signs of that are emerging

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in full force

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local residents in East Palestine as

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well as in surrounding towns are

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reporting major health problems and many

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are being diagnosed with chemically

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induced bronchitis or contact dermatitis

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due to chemical exposure

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or other serious ailments the doctors

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making these diagnosis are attributing

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the causal factor to being the

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environmental disaster

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there is a rush by some to say that all

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those reports are unrelated health

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problems somehow

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so I wanted to talk to some local

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residents and get the real story

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after our first report on this I got

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many emails and this interview I'm

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sharing with all of you is just one of

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the many local residents that I talk to

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there's a lot of people reporting

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massive health problems that live in or

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around the area Norfolk Southern has

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sent local residents a mailer recently

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claiming that there have been no health

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risks detected by any tests conducted by

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the government or independent labs

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I think it's incredibly important to

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take careful note

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that the narrative that we are being

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spoon-fed is being completely disputed

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by local residents and local doctors

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most there don't think that the air or

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water is safe and many feel like Norfolk

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Southern and even our own government has

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been lying to them

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so let's get to an interview with a

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local resident whose name is Jason Van

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hoose and hopefully we'll get some

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I have been interested in this event

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since it took place and I've been

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following some of the news coverage but

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I thought it would be more informative

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to get someone who actually lives there

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who can tell us what's going on in the

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ground and in the surrounding cities and

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neighborhoods and towns and that would

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which is about 20 miles north of East

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Palestine

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and uh

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a lot of involvement with that area the

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East Palestine area because my mom lived

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down there for 40 years and had a big

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antique business

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so I just I've seen a lot of time

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roaming around the countryside going to

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farm auctions and flea markets and

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things

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yeah I I know that area interesting area

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I used to know somebody who had a cabin

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on on the like border of PA up there

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right near there so I know the area

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pretty well can you can you tell me

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um what's what's really been going on

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on the ground there what are the local

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residents talking about what impact is

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this event having on the locals or

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well right now I I haven't been down to

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East Palestine in person because

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I've been sick

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from the museums from This Disaster that

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made it up to Youngstown

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but I've been in contact with people I

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know down there

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you know by the internet and

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messaging and things and there is some

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really deep concern going on

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this seems to be a

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ffecting people with underlying

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conditions and the elderly and there's

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great concern for the kids yeah that's

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what I've heard that it's affecting

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vote more vulner you know the vulnerable

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part of the population a lot like you

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know uh other things would like children

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and older people you know maybe uh very

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young children don't have that developed

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immune system yet and older peoples is

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weaker so do you think it's affecting

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them more more dramatically than a than

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doing uh on the ground interviews that

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are saying that they've all been treated

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for uh

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acute bronchitis due to chemical

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exposure

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there's been a number of people who've

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been hospitalized put on oxygen and

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they say that you know they're young

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people they're healthy they work

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Outdoors you know they work on farms and

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things and here they wind up in the

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hospital

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and there's even been

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kids who've been athletic Athletic kids

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in their schools who

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just knocked out

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put on oxygen put in the hospital for

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several days

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there's so many mixed messages coming in

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you know there's so many yes

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saying hey there's nothing wrong here

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we're fine we're healthy yeah and isn't

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it isn't it crazy that they just they

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only evacuate it one square mile around

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the original you know derailment and and

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fire that they created only evacuated

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one square mile and what was it like the

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next day they just told everybody oh

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it's safe to go home

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right that's true and on top of that

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uh there's people who went back to their

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homes told it was safe and then

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you know they had testing done

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testing comes back says oh you're safe

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well and then a follow-up test was done

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because somebody got sick in the home

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and they said oh yeah

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don't go back stay out of your home this

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has happened several times

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to order but the how

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the house finds so they yeah and that

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does not make any sense if it's

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hazardous for your next door neighbor

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it's hazardous for you and there does

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seem to be some yeah this mixed message

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right and

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is your perception in other people's

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perception around there that this is

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being covered up or that the that the

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people responsible are trying to avoid

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responsibility so they're just saying

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yeah everything's fine knowing that it's

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well honestly

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like I have some background in The

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Sciences I spent two years at Ohio State

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in environmental science things like

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that

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makes you qualified to to make some

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calls here and determinations about

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what's going on more so than than me or

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the you know the average citizen you

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know

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yeah I mean it was a long time ago but I

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see to me I look at this and I think

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they're realizing that this is a bigger

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disaster than they could admit to that's

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seems to be the direction it's going

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uh like recently you know they've been

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saying that um

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the Air's fine well we have many local

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universities including Carnegie Mellon

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um writing universities have gone there

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and tested and uh they're finding

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chemical levels that are too high

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uh there so you get this message from

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the Norfolk and Southern testing

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facilities

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saying it's fine and then the Ohio EPA

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saying it's fine

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but then the universities are saying no

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these chemicals are

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are getting too too high for comfort and

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and they say long-term exposure to those

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chemicals will cause all kinds of health

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issues you know yeah I mean that that's

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the scary that's the scary part yeah

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that this is gonna this is going to

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affect some of those if those local

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residents just choose especially the

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ones closest to this situation where the

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where the water's getting you know

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infected with this these chemicals and

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the air you're going to have acid rain

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coming down for how God knows how long

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months Maybe

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from from the burn so there could be

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like really long-term health effects you

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know in 10 years from now we might find

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huge pockets of you know cancers and

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things like that from this event and I I

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would think that the the you know train

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company is going to try to minimize this

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as much as possible to prevent the

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liability and the payouts

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yeah well I think we're looking at a

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situation where

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uh Norfolk and Southern is going to have

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to go completely bankrupt I think it's

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that bad

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and I think it's a damn Reckoning for uh

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major industries but at the same time

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you know the petrochemical business is

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huge in that area and that stretch of

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the along the river yeah they just put a

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huge

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plan and it's like some sci-fi Nightmare

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on mirror on the side of the mountain

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and that that thing is all that waste

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waste yeah it's

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it's you know see it's just such a

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horrible situation it's scary like it's

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a

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is slowly getting worse despite their

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best efforts to conceal it or to

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information in the public hands is

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yeah a well-informed populace is a

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dangerous one you know I I believe that

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but what can you tell us about the The

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Creeks the rivers the the local lakes

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and ponds and all those dead fish and

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things that we were seeing early on has

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that continued to be an issue or gotten

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worse or gone away

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well it's a mixed bag in a lot of areas

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well first of all they said originally

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that there was a

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3 500 fish tilled in the closest creek

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and that was it well those numbers that

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changed in the Ohio Department of

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Natural Resources now admitted that 44

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000 Bishops been killed 44 000 fish

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that's a big swing from 3500 isn't it

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it's a huge swing and uh

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other universities have come in and

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confirmed this in addition to that the

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Fallout

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to the north poison ponds and there's at

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least two ponds that I heard of where

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all the fish were killed from The

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Fallout you know from the dust and Ash

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yeah and we're talking about

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all the fish in the entire Ponder Lake

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that's quite a an event you know

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it's not like a percentage of it it's

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like they they basically I've seen some

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footage from other locals and you know

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they basically have to go in and just

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you know sweep all the dead fish out of

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an entire Pond or lake or you know

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fishing pond whatever these waterways

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are all getting hammered and you know

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don't you think it's like a canary in

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the in the in the coal mine situation if

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you if you're seeing 44 000 fish dead

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that may be some indicator of what's

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actually going on in the environment

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more so than these false reports that

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everything's fine go about your business

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and it's making matters worse because

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the officials are saying don't believe

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your own eyes believe what we're telling

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you

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and so it really creates this unsettling

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sense of paranoia in people

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yeah and and you know I I don't know I I

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have no uh patience or even allowance

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for like corporate greed being more

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important than People's Health you know

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this is such a failure of every system

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or checks and balances that you would

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think in our you know I would expect

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something like this in a third world

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country someplace

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but the fact that like a corporation is

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just able to come in and then the

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government is backing them up

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essentially saying oh yeah everything's

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good I know Ohio EPA has been trying to

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calm the uh

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pardon the pun the fires of this thing

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right

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and and and we've got you know uh Biden

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is giving you know just gave 10 million

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dollars to Ukraine is it true that he

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refused to designate it in federal

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well yeah more or less

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it's so complicated Steve it's starting

430
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to explain the whole bureaucracy I'm

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afraid I'd just bore your listeners but

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miscommunication between

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governor dewine and uh the

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you know the federal EPA Joe Biden sure

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through what you know the

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misunderstandings and things like that

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so the horrible part of this is

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action should have been taken

439
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immediately after the disaster but it's

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only now taking place and it's been

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almost a month yeah 30 days they just

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left those citizens on their own defend

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for themselves you know hope you don't

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die of uh you know mustard gas poisoning

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uh in the next month while we figure

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this out

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it's just been like I said it's just I

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think this is shown like a system-wide

449
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failure of so many systems that we

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thought are in place the transportation

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system fails the federal government

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fails the EPA I'm I'm calling them for

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on the record comments

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um and and they don't want to reply they

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don't want to respond and and that

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bothers me because that's their job you

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know they're there to do that and and

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every state

459
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EPA agency has a media person whose

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responsibility is to be the spokesperson

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for them and to answer questions they

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don't want to do that

463
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and I haven't seen something like that

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before not as blatant as I'm seeing it

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right now

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you know but I'm keeping call logs

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because uh eventually I hope that people

468
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are are you know called before somebody

469
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to answer for for their lack of response

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here you know if I if I'm calling the

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Ohio EPA and asking for comment about

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different issues or statements that

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citizens on the ground are sending me

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and they refuse to even return a call

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that's that's a huge problem so why why

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can't you answer questions

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is it because they don't want to or

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because they can't you know who knows

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but it's a real problem and there should

480
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right you know part of the problem we're

481
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facing here is that we have you know the

482
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Republicans are running Ohio

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and

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[\h__\h] Southern has been

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targeting to their campaigns yeah yeah

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and I saw a lot of blame placed on Trump

487
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for easing some kind of regulations but

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we've got Biden forcing the railway

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workers back to work not letting them

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strike when part of the reason they were

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striking is over safety concerns did you

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know that um when a train leaves a

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destination with a full you know

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whatever it has a hundred cars or you

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know all filled with whatever hazardous

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materials whatever it's filled with some

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of these rail workers only get 90

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seconds per car to check each car for

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safety and you know

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that's ridiculous especially when you're

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dealing with you know these kind of

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hazardous chemicals you 90 seconds

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that's what you get and they have to go

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through that 100 car you know that

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hundred

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car train

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and they get 90 seconds per car to check

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that stuff is it's one of the most toxic

509
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most flammable substances on Earth one

510
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of the most

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ever created by man it is so horrific

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that if a few little things go wrong you

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suddenly have a massive bomb on your

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hands like an incredible explosive toxic

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device and they're hauling these things

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still right through your community if

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you got a railroad track go through your

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town they're hauling that stuff right

519
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oh these bombs right in right into our

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right into our towns yeah there that

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one's sure

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[Music]

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that was 500 tons of polyvinyl chloride

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500 tons of that stuff

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was was being hauled yeah each one of

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those

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is such a has such powerful explosive

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potential

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that was the big reason they started

530
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had burned because if they would have

531
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let it gone a little farther

532
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they said it would have turned into an

533
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unimaginable catastrophic events no I

534
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think it was bad enough as it was but

535
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yeah

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well it would have if they hadn't

537
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directed The the energy as they did it

538
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would have flattened that whole town it

539
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literally would happen that's not an

540
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exaggeration this is what the

541
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experts are saying they're saying

542
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shrapnel would have fallen like miles

543
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away

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yeah and besides the dead fish you know

545
00:25:51,409 --> 00:25:49,020
I'm hearing various reports of people's

546
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pets dying their chickens their dogs

547
00:25:58,250 --> 00:25:55,380
their cats are you hearing a lot of that

548
00:26:00,049 --> 00:25:58,260
yeah uh

549
00:26:01,850 --> 00:26:00,059
it's sort of like

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00:26:05,690 --> 00:26:01,860
well there's been a lot of chickens

551
00:26:08,450 --> 00:26:05,700
there was a one calf that was you know

552
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it's still still waiting to hear about

553
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Here's the final report

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um

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yeah there were a lot of animals have

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just gotten sick you know

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00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:20,159
it's been Farmers talking about chicken

558
00:26:25,570 --> 00:26:23,520
or chicken stop laying eggs or you know

559
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the cows won't get up and move around

560
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stuff like that

561
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and the thing is is that this is kind of

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a cumulative effect and so as time as

563
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these weeks have gone by it it's getting

564
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worse and worse it's not getting better

565
00:26:44,090 --> 00:26:42,240
but it's slowly getting worse and it's

566
00:26:46,730 --> 00:26:44,100
definitely not getting better

567
00:26:48,830 --> 00:26:46,740
like there's no signs of that I can see

568
00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:48,840
from any news reports that there's any

569
00:26:54,289 --> 00:26:50,640
sort of improvement

570
00:26:57,409 --> 00:26:54,299
it's but these very scary reports keep

571
00:27:01,130 --> 00:26:57,419
coming in at a steady rate and it's just

572
00:27:03,409 --> 00:27:01,140
you know it's getting to the point where

573
00:27:06,169 --> 00:27:03,419
we're expecting to see animals start

574
00:27:09,830 --> 00:27:06,179
dropping dead soon or People's Health

575
00:27:12,769 --> 00:27:09,840
getting worse there was a big Factory

576
00:27:16,130 --> 00:27:12,779
down there very successful pet Factory

577
00:27:19,310 --> 00:27:16,140
that pays very well they make ceramic

578
00:27:22,010 --> 00:27:19,320
bricks for Indus for heavy industry

579
00:27:24,049 --> 00:27:22,020
they had to shut down because every time

580
00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:24,059
the workers the workers lived in the

581
00:27:27,890 --> 00:27:25,679
countryside and when they come into town

582
00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:27,900
they get sick

583
00:27:32,390 --> 00:27:29,760
and this has been going on for three

584
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:32,400
weeks so finally in the our local uh

585
00:27:37,310 --> 00:27:35,279
business newspaper they said uh

586
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:37,320
they're just closing the factory because

587
00:27:42,110 --> 00:27:40,080
they can't keep workers in there

588
00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:42,120
yeah yeah and I saw that news report

589
00:27:47,450 --> 00:27:45,600
I'll share it for my audience but just

590
00:27:50,269 --> 00:27:47,460
just horrific this stuff that's going

591
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:50,279
and you're right you know if you don't

592
00:27:54,169 --> 00:27:52,080
if you're in a if you're in a situation

593
00:27:55,690 --> 00:27:54,179
where there's some kind of toxins in

594
00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:55,700
your environment

595
00:28:01,190 --> 00:27:58,559
those toxins build up in your system

596
00:28:03,470 --> 00:28:01,200
over time it doesn't get better it gets

597
00:28:05,630 --> 00:28:03,480
worse the longer you were exposed to

598
00:28:08,390 --> 00:28:05,640
this

599
00:28:10,430 --> 00:28:08,400
so you know and you said that there's

600
00:28:13,490 --> 00:28:10,440
all kinds of people being hospitalized

601
00:28:15,890 --> 00:28:13,500
or seeking medical treatment for you

602
00:28:19,850 --> 00:28:15,900
know I'm hearing like bad sore throats

603
00:28:22,789 --> 00:28:19,860
and and sort of like allergy conditions

604
00:28:26,510 --> 00:28:22,799
you know running eyes bad sewer throats

605
00:28:37,850 --> 00:28:26,520
uh skin irritations rashes

606
00:28:44,990 --> 00:28:41,570
when they the controlled burn and the

607
00:28:46,010 --> 00:28:45,000
toxic plume came over Youngstown

608
00:28:48,830 --> 00:28:46,020
um

609
00:28:51,049 --> 00:28:48,840
I didn't the if the officials did a very

610
00:28:53,870 --> 00:28:51,059
poor job of notifying people so I went

611
00:28:55,130 --> 00:28:53,880
out to my art studio to work so I was

612
00:28:57,710 --> 00:28:55,140
out in it

613
00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:57,720
and uh by the time I got home I was so

614
00:29:00,470 --> 00:28:58,799
sick

615
00:29:02,450 --> 00:29:00,480
and for

616
00:29:04,850 --> 00:29:02,460
and it just kept getting worse and worse

617
00:29:07,850 --> 00:29:04,860
and I was diagnosed with acute

618
00:29:10,490 --> 00:29:07,860
bronchitis that was probably brought on

619
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:10,500
by chemical exposure according to my

620
00:29:14,029 --> 00:29:11,279
doctor

621
00:29:15,710 --> 00:29:14,039
and I had allergic rhinitis and

622
00:29:18,529 --> 00:29:15,720
inflammation

623
00:29:21,169 --> 00:29:18,539
I mean it was brutal and then he told me

624
00:29:22,970 --> 00:29:21,179
I had it so bad and since it was

625
00:29:25,789 --> 00:29:22,980
probably chemical related it was going

626
00:29:29,450 --> 00:29:25,799
to take me three months to recover

627
00:29:32,930 --> 00:29:29,460
without treatment three months so the

628
00:29:35,389 --> 00:29:32,940
treatment he gave me was a steroid shot

629
00:29:37,549 --> 00:29:35,399
and this is what every what I just

630
00:29:40,970 --> 00:29:37,559
explained what I was diagnosed with all

631
00:29:42,710 --> 00:29:40,980
these people between East Palestine and

632
00:29:44,029 --> 00:29:42,720
Youngstown are getting diagnosed with

633
00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:44,039
that and they're all getting the

634
00:29:48,049 --> 00:29:46,260
steroids shut so when you see these

635
00:29:50,330 --> 00:29:48,059
people interviewed like in East

636
00:29:51,710 --> 00:29:50,340
Palestine and they're all happy it's

637
00:29:53,930 --> 00:29:51,720
because they're all jacked up on

638
00:29:56,289 --> 00:29:53,940
steroids great just keep that in mind

639
00:30:07,970 --> 00:29:56,299
when you watch the videos

640
00:30:13,789 --> 00:30:11,149
to knock that to Britain these are

641
00:30:15,769 --> 00:30:13,799
reactions have been so severe this is

642
00:30:17,930 --> 00:30:15,779
just not like ordinary allergies man

643
00:30:19,669 --> 00:30:17,940
yeah yeah

644
00:30:21,470 --> 00:30:19,679
it's severe

645
00:30:25,010 --> 00:30:21,480
beer what they say a lot of what we were

646
00:30:27,350 --> 00:30:25,020
exposed to was that World War One

647
00:30:29,690 --> 00:30:27,360
chemical called phosgene and it was used

648
00:30:31,610 --> 00:30:29,700
as a chemical weapon yeah it's the main

649
00:30:33,409 --> 00:30:31,620
ingredient of mustard gas that was used

650
00:30:36,169 --> 00:30:33,419
during World War One

651
00:30:39,230 --> 00:30:36,179
right I mean it's brutal it's meant to

652
00:30:41,630 --> 00:30:39,240
kill people so even a small dose yeah

653
00:30:44,389 --> 00:30:41,640
and it's important just for my listeners

654
00:30:46,909 --> 00:30:44,399
to to make sure they understand that you

655
00:30:50,029 --> 00:30:46,919
know when when this final chloride was

656
00:30:52,070 --> 00:30:50,039
burned when you burn that chemical that

657
00:30:54,830 --> 00:30:52,080
was in the tankers it creates this other

658
00:30:58,010 --> 00:30:54,840
chemical called phosgene which is the

659
00:31:00,169 --> 00:30:58,020
main component of deadly mustard gas

660
00:31:02,029 --> 00:31:00,179
used during World War One and I think

661
00:31:03,649 --> 00:31:02,039
wasn't it outlawed by the Geneva

662
00:31:05,810 --> 00:31:03,659
Convention to use that as a weapon

663
00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:05,820
because it's just so terrible

664
00:31:11,570 --> 00:31:08,640
right but they could somehow just burn

665
00:31:14,389 --> 00:31:11,580
this vinyl chloride and create it in the

666
00:31:16,970 --> 00:31:14,399
atmosphere and kill possibly kill a lot

667
00:31:18,769 --> 00:31:16,980
of people with it because hey we got to

668
00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:18,779
get you know the other thing I heard is

669
00:31:22,370 --> 00:31:20,399
that they they did the burn and

670
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:22,380
everything because they had to hurry up

671
00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:24,720
and get the railway running again

672
00:31:30,289 --> 00:31:28,799
that's crazy like oh you know we have to

673
00:31:31,310 --> 00:31:30,299
get the railway running so do what you

674
00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:31,320
got to do

675
00:31:35,149 --> 00:31:33,360
and then I heard that there's reports

676
00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:35,159
they were supposed to remove the soil

677
00:31:39,289 --> 00:31:37,440
around the actual derailment but they

678
00:31:41,210 --> 00:31:39,299
didn't they just covered over it do you

679
00:31:44,990 --> 00:31:41,220
know anything about that

680
00:31:47,029 --> 00:31:45,000
oh yeah yeah that's really corrupt they

681
00:31:51,470 --> 00:31:47,039
they had those railroad they had that

682
00:31:53,330 --> 00:31:51,480
railroad fixed and running so fast it

683
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:53,340
was it's amazing they're strange just

684
00:31:59,450 --> 00:31:55,679
blasting through East Palestine every 11

685
00:32:02,029 --> 00:31:59,460
minutes and it's it's two two tracks so

686
00:32:05,269 --> 00:32:02,039
they're going north and south every 11

687
00:32:07,850 --> 00:32:05,279
minutes man they picked up because they

688
00:32:09,769 --> 00:32:07,860
lost so much time they to make up for

689
00:32:11,510 --> 00:32:09,779
lost time so they're really running them

690
00:32:13,850 --> 00:32:11,520
trains hard now

691
00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:13,860
oh that's great maybe I have a second

692
00:32:23,090 --> 00:32:20,510
so every time a train goes over it kicks

693
00:32:26,169 --> 00:32:23,100
up all those all that dust and everybody

694
00:32:28,669 --> 00:32:26,179
gets everybody

695
00:32:30,529 --> 00:32:28,679
issues get reactivated yeah you're

696
00:32:31,970 --> 00:32:30,539
getting exposed to a sec a secondary

697
00:32:34,730 --> 00:32:31,980
time a third time

698
00:32:37,490 --> 00:32:34,740
that makes a lot of sense yeah I I don't

699
00:32:39,169 --> 00:32:37,500
I just don't understand and what is the

700
00:32:42,529 --> 00:32:39,179
attitude in general of the local

701
00:32:46,010 --> 00:32:42,539
residents are people like angry and and

702
00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:46,020
feeling like lied to or betrayed or are

703
00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:49,200
people just accepting the um you know

704
00:32:54,889 --> 00:32:51,120
the sort of propaganda that everything's

705
00:33:00,590 --> 00:32:57,470
people are people are still in a State

706
00:33:02,510 --> 00:33:00,600
of Shock and they're dealing with you

707
00:33:05,450 --> 00:33:02,520
know so many issues just to make it

708
00:33:07,610 --> 00:33:05,460
through a day that they haven't even

709
00:33:11,269 --> 00:33:07,620
been able to

710
00:33:13,130 --> 00:33:11,279
get them together enough to fight you

711
00:33:15,769 --> 00:33:13,140
know I don't think any some people are

712
00:33:17,450 --> 00:33:15,779
getting mad but I think everybody is our

713
00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:17,460
people are just so confused and

714
00:33:23,870 --> 00:33:20,880
exhausted and demoralized at least the

715
00:33:26,810 --> 00:33:23,880
people I talk to you know like it's it's

716
00:33:29,090 --> 00:33:26,820
overwhelming you know when you're down

717
00:33:32,090 --> 00:33:29,100
here and it's every day

718
00:33:34,909 --> 00:33:32,100
it is a it feels like an overwhelming

719
00:33:36,889 --> 00:33:34,919
disaster like similar to like when a big

720
00:33:42,769 --> 00:33:36,899
hurricane hits and how people kind of

721
00:33:46,730 --> 00:33:44,870
edema's right there they're getting help

722
00:33:49,549 --> 00:33:46,740
they're getting counselors they're

723
00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:49,559
getting all these all this help

724
00:33:58,370 --> 00:33:52,740
it's only just now getting there to East

725
00:34:03,169 --> 00:34:00,830
there should be yeah

726
00:34:06,289 --> 00:34:03,179
it should be yeah

727
00:34:08,930 --> 00:34:06,299
and do you have a sense of uh how far

728
00:34:10,430 --> 00:34:08,940
out are these toxic effects being felt

729
00:34:14,750 --> 00:34:10,440
from the original

730
00:34:16,190 --> 00:34:14,760
uh derailment sight and burn site do you

731
00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:16,200
have any

732
00:34:23,450 --> 00:34:20,159
idea of you know how far are these toxic

733
00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:23,460
effects traveling

734
00:34:27,530 --> 00:34:25,919
well as far as I can tell from the

735
00:34:28,970 --> 00:34:27,540
internet and talking to people we have

736
00:34:31,970 --> 00:34:28,980
people

737
00:34:34,070 --> 00:34:31,980
I'm 25 miles away

738
00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:34,080
almost due north

739
00:34:38,089 --> 00:34:36,240
and I got

740
00:34:40,010 --> 00:34:38,099
um there's been a lot of people in my

741
00:34:41,570 --> 00:34:40,020
neighborhood that got it because it was

742
00:34:44,329 --> 00:34:41,580
a beautiful night people were out

743
00:34:45,950 --> 00:34:44,339
walking the night of that bird

744
00:34:48,169 --> 00:34:45,960
um

745
00:34:50,869 --> 00:34:48,179
but just south of here you know in some

746
00:34:54,829 --> 00:34:50,879
of the Suburban areas

747
00:34:57,290 --> 00:34:54,839
a mile away or so there is uh

748
00:34:59,870 --> 00:34:57,300
so many people who've been on the news

749
00:35:04,430 --> 00:34:59,880
complaining that they got really like

750
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:04,440
chemical burns in their nose and ears

751
00:35:11,450 --> 00:35:07,680
and things so there was some

752
00:35:13,130 --> 00:35:11,460
you know somebody exposure yeah and I

753
00:35:15,410 --> 00:35:13,140
think it I think it's very interesting

754
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:15,420
that you're 25 miles away and experience

755
00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:19,200
these these toxic effects 20 25 miles

756
00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:21,599
away and when they did the burn they

757
00:35:26,930 --> 00:35:23,760
only evacuated one square mile

758
00:35:28,910 --> 00:35:26,940
that's crazy to me they had to know that

759
00:35:36,170 --> 00:35:28,920
this was going to travel you know that

760
00:35:41,329 --> 00:35:38,569
there was a heavy Ash that came down it

761
00:35:43,310 --> 00:35:41,339
was like big potato chips floating down

762
00:35:44,930 --> 00:35:43,320
and people went out and collected it put

763
00:35:49,609 --> 00:35:44,940
in jars

764
00:35:52,130 --> 00:35:49,619
and uh that fell up to five miles out as

765
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:52,140
far as I could tell so what no one's

766
00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:54,240
even testing that Ash no one's even

767
00:35:58,849 --> 00:35:57,359
making an effort to go in just north of

768
00:36:01,910 --> 00:35:58,859
East Palestine

769
00:36:04,370 --> 00:36:01,920
to test what fell out of the cloud

770
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:04,380
you know that stuff is horrible too

771
00:36:09,290 --> 00:36:06,720
they're testing the water but they won't

772
00:36:12,109 --> 00:36:09,300
test what landed on the ground

773
00:36:14,270 --> 00:36:12,119
yeah that that would seem to be a

774
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:14,280
priority if you ask me

775
00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:17,760
like you know you want to know what

776
00:36:34,190 --> 00:36:30,650
that when you burn uh

777
00:36:37,250 --> 00:36:34,200
polyvinyl chloride you get dioxins

778
00:36:40,010 --> 00:36:37,260
and the EPA is refusing they are flatly

779
00:36:41,650 --> 00:36:40,020
refusing over and over again to test for

780
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:41,660
dioxins

781
00:36:46,930 --> 00:36:45,119
that's a common chemical

782
00:36:52,190 --> 00:36:46,940
that

783
00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:52,200
chloride and it's it's extremely

784
00:36:57,530 --> 00:36:54,720
dangerous and it's very persistent it

785
00:36:59,089 --> 00:36:57,540
takes like up to 200 years to get out of

786
00:37:02,510 --> 00:36:59,099
the soil

787
00:37:05,329 --> 00:37:02,520
and so we don't know if it got into you

788
00:37:08,210 --> 00:37:05,339
know the general water supply we don't

789
00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:08,220
know anything and the people north of

790
00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:11,280
East Palestine under the plume

791
00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:14,400
have a right to know oh absolutely yeah

792
00:37:25,490 --> 00:37:23,870
it's it's crazy and like I said it seems

793
00:37:28,190 --> 00:37:25,500
to me to be like this is this whole

794
00:37:31,130 --> 00:37:28,200
thing is a system-wide failure

795
00:37:34,430 --> 00:37:31,140
I uh I'm I'm gonna be doing my best

796
00:37:37,069 --> 00:37:34,440
trying to especially the Ohio EPA like

797
00:37:39,170 --> 00:37:37,079
where are you at what are you doing you

798
00:37:43,550 --> 00:37:39,180
know what are you doing to help this

799
00:37:45,829 --> 00:37:43,560
situation and uh you know give us some

800
00:37:48,170 --> 00:37:45,839
answers here that's the least that they

801
00:37:51,710 --> 00:37:49,069
foreign

802
00:37:52,430 --> 00:37:51,720
yeah and they're really dragging their

803
00:37:54,530 --> 00:37:52,440
feet

804
00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:54,540
yeah and I kind of want I kind of want

805
00:37:59,569 --> 00:37:57,119
somebody from the Ohio EPA to explain to

806
00:38:01,609 --> 00:37:59,579
me how tens of thousands of fish could

807
00:38:03,230 --> 00:38:01,619
be killed in the local waterways but

808
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:03,240
it's still safe for residents to live

809
00:38:16,210 --> 00:38:06,000
there how do you know you know like this

810
00:38:22,250 --> 00:38:20,150
north of East Palestine

811
00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:22,260
so

812
00:38:32,030 --> 00:38:30,170
you know with the East Palestine Town

813
00:38:33,470 --> 00:38:32,040
issue they don't even want to think

814
00:38:35,990 --> 00:38:33,480
about looking

815
00:38:37,370 --> 00:38:36,000
you know into the countryside north of

816
00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:37,380
East Palestine

817
00:38:43,310 --> 00:38:40,079
yeah because it's then they're going to

818
00:38:44,990 --> 00:38:43,320
have you know 27 towns to deal with

819
00:38:49,790 --> 00:38:45,000
they're all having issues from this

820
00:38:52,010 --> 00:38:49,800
toxic spill not one you know

821
00:38:53,569 --> 00:38:52,020
I want to say something about the people

822
00:38:55,550 --> 00:38:53,579
sure

823
00:38:57,950 --> 00:38:55,560
and this is important to me because I

824
00:39:00,770 --> 00:38:57,960
I'm one of them you know I'm from I get

825
00:39:01,670 --> 00:39:00,780
along down there pretty well

826
00:39:04,849 --> 00:39:01,680
um

827
00:39:07,490 --> 00:39:04,859
East Palestine and surrounding towns of

828
00:39:08,569 --> 00:39:07,500
same size are all bedroom communities of

829
00:39:11,690 --> 00:39:08,579
Pittsburgh

830
00:39:14,990 --> 00:39:11,700
so when covet hit so many people moved

831
00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:15,000
into that area yeah get out of the city

832
00:39:31,849 --> 00:39:29,390
there's uh art galleries

833
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:31,859
you know it's it's got that little that

834
00:39:34,910 --> 00:39:34,079
cool Town feel all those towns are like

835
00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:34,920
that

836
00:39:41,089 --> 00:39:37,680
so I don't you know you have some you

837
00:39:42,890 --> 00:39:41,099
have the lgbtq community people who you

838
00:39:44,750 --> 00:39:42,900
know work at the coffee shops and the

839
00:39:48,410 --> 00:39:44,760
breweries and things like that

840
00:39:51,410 --> 00:39:48,420
the art galleries so they're not a bunch

841
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:51,420
uh you know Trump loving rednecks oh you

842
00:40:02,690 --> 00:39:53,040
know you got them everywhere I mean

843
00:40:07,069 --> 00:40:04,849
it's a diverse Community you got people

844
00:40:09,530 --> 00:40:07,079
from all over the world you know it's

845
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:09,540
always been like an immigrant area

846
00:40:15,290 --> 00:40:13,200
so it's so strange to see the media

847
00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:15,300
portray them as like

848
00:40:21,170 --> 00:40:19,260
bitter angry white Trump lovers you know

849
00:40:24,050 --> 00:40:21,180
what I mean well I got to put a spin on

850
00:40:27,410 --> 00:40:24,060
it somehow to you know explain away the

851
00:40:29,150 --> 00:40:27,420
the failure of the whole you know I

852
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:29,160
would say that's a that's a Biden

853
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:30,960
Administration failure just the way that

854
00:40:34,010 --> 00:40:32,640
this was handled was absolutely

855
00:40:36,349 --> 00:40:34,020
ridiculous

856
00:40:39,530 --> 00:40:36,359
and and like I said I'm gonna do my best

857
00:40:42,829 --> 00:40:39,540
especially with the Ohio EPA

858
00:40:45,410 --> 00:40:42,839
um if I I I'm halfway to if I have to

859
00:40:48,050 --> 00:40:45,420
drive there in person with my call logs

860
00:40:49,370 --> 00:40:48,060
to ask why no one can call me back I'm

861
00:40:51,410 --> 00:40:49,380
gonna do that

862
00:40:53,089 --> 00:40:51,420
and we'll see what happens you know it's

863
00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:53,099
kind of it's a lot harder for them to

864
00:40:57,790 --> 00:40:54,720
ignore me when I'm knocking right on

865
00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:57,800
their office door you know

866
00:41:02,390 --> 00:41:00,240
well you know that that's what it's

867
00:41:04,310 --> 00:41:02,400
going to take and the thing is the

868
00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:04,320
people of East Palestine

869
00:41:09,109 --> 00:41:06,960
they're not in a position to do it you

870
00:41:11,390 --> 00:41:09,119
know they're too beat up right now

871
00:41:13,490 --> 00:41:11,400
and it takes and that's why I'm talking

872
00:41:15,470 --> 00:41:13,500
to you right now because I'm pleading

873
00:41:18,190 --> 00:41:15,480
for help that we get some outside

874
00:41:21,829 --> 00:41:18,200
sources independent sources to come in

875
00:41:25,250 --> 00:41:21,839
and look at this you know and help

876
00:41:26,750 --> 00:41:25,260
because it is just It's just tough

877
00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:26,760
you know and

878
00:41:31,609 --> 00:41:29,280
you know like I said and it's slowly

879
00:41:33,770 --> 00:41:31,619
getting worse and we need help

880
00:41:36,829 --> 00:41:33,780
yeah well I'm gonna do everything that I

881
00:41:38,930 --> 00:41:36,839
can do and the least I can do I think

882
00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:38,940
as any kind of a media person could do

883
00:41:43,730 --> 00:41:40,800
is at least talk about it try to rate

884
00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:43,740
some awareness because it's just a dead

885
00:41:48,370 --> 00:41:45,359
zone out there you know there's a little

886
00:41:53,390 --> 00:41:48,380
bit of initial coverage mostly from a um

887
00:41:56,690 --> 00:41:53,400
you know uh political lens right

888
00:41:58,310 --> 00:41:56,700
but it seems like uh you know I would

889
00:42:01,069 --> 00:41:58,320
think that the story is important enough

890
00:42:02,930 --> 00:42:01,079
and the long-term health effects to all

891
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:02,940
this all the residents in those towns

892
00:42:09,170 --> 00:42:05,760
and surrounding towns not just in East

893
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:09,180
Palestine is important enough that we

894
00:42:13,730 --> 00:42:11,280
should we should be hearing news you

895
00:42:15,950 --> 00:42:13,740
know is it safe is it safe for the town

896
00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:15,960
next to East Palestine the town Two

897
00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:19,200
Towns over what's the you know have you

898
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:21,119
tested the water is there more fish

899
00:42:26,329 --> 00:42:23,280
dying or are people's pets still dying

900
00:42:28,849 --> 00:42:26,339
are people still being hospitalized it's

901
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:28,859
like we're not getting any news of of

902
00:42:35,930 --> 00:42:31,200
any of this you know or very very little

903
00:42:40,190 --> 00:42:37,730
you know that's

904
00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:40,200
it's so frustrating because like right

905
00:42:44,990 --> 00:42:43,200
now I'm I'm in a network of people and

906
00:42:47,150 --> 00:42:45,000
we're sharing information you know

907
00:42:49,490 --> 00:42:47,160
what's the latest reports all this kind

908
00:42:51,710 --> 00:42:49,500
of stuff and there's so much good

909
00:42:52,730 --> 00:42:51,720
information from good sources that we

910
00:42:54,829 --> 00:42:52,740
find

911
00:42:57,770 --> 00:42:54,839
that that is just being ignored by the

912
00:42:59,890 --> 00:42:57,780
media I mean part of the problem is a

913
00:43:02,510 --> 00:42:59,900
lot of this information is complicated

914
00:43:05,809 --> 00:43:02,520
and it's hard it's hard for the news to

915
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:08,210
so you know

916
00:43:13,970 --> 00:43:10,800
there's a lot of issues like compounding

917
00:43:15,530 --> 00:43:13,980
issues where maybe the media does want

918
00:43:16,970 --> 00:43:15,540
to inform the public

919
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:16,980
but they don't know how to

920
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:19,200
you know it's a tricky situation you

921
00:43:23,950 --> 00:43:21,599
know it's complicated

922
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:23,960
there's so many factors there's science

923
00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:27,440
there's greed corporate

924
00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:30,960
malfeasance yeah empirical Powers

925
00:43:36,530 --> 00:43:34,319
political power as well because you know

926
00:43:38,510 --> 00:43:36,540
uh I I know for a fact that that real

927
00:43:40,490 --> 00:43:38,520
company did donate quite a lot of money

928
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:40,500
to the Republican party but I would bet

929
00:43:44,450 --> 00:43:42,720
you that they play both sides of defense

930
00:43:45,829 --> 00:43:44,460
and have donated money on the other side

931
00:43:48,829 --> 00:43:45,839
of the aisle too

932
00:43:51,290 --> 00:43:48,839
so there's some pressure there and we

933
00:43:53,150 --> 00:43:51,300
can see this with this huge rush to

934
00:43:55,309 --> 00:43:53,160
Let's hurry up we got to get this rail

935
00:43:57,710 --> 00:43:55,319
run it we got to get the railroad up and

936
00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:57,720
running again you know we'll worry about

937
00:44:02,870 --> 00:44:00,720
the you know the health risks later and

938
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:02,880
the liability for this

939
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:05,520
terrible environmental disaster we

940
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:07,200
created we'll worry about that later

941
00:44:12,230 --> 00:44:10,079
right now we have shipments you know we

942
00:44:14,210 --> 00:44:12,240
we have to get the trains running it's

943
00:44:16,970 --> 00:44:14,220
just a lack of any sort of human

944
00:44:19,370 --> 00:44:16,980
compassion I wonder if those Railway

945
00:44:20,930 --> 00:44:19,380
Executives would feel the same way if

946
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:20,940
that train was going through their

947
00:44:24,190 --> 00:44:23,520
backyards where their families live you

948
00:44:27,170 --> 00:44:24,200
know

949
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:27,180
[Music]

950
00:44:34,010 --> 00:44:30,720
it's a uh a senate hearing and the CEO

951
00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:34,020
of Norfolk and Southern was had the test

952
00:44:38,569 --> 00:44:36,240
of five before uh

953
00:44:41,870 --> 00:44:38,579
before the Senate you know that was that

954
00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:41,880
just happened it was kind of a surprise

955
00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:45,359
um I was dissatisfied by what I heard

956
00:44:54,829 --> 00:44:52,319
from our local Senator Senator uh Rulli

957
00:44:56,510 --> 00:44:54,839
you know he's he's familiar he's from

958
00:44:59,450 --> 00:44:56,520
kind of from that area this is where he

959
00:45:01,550 --> 00:44:59,460
has his big family grocery store

960
00:45:04,490 --> 00:45:01,560
and uh

961
00:45:06,230 --> 00:45:04,500
yeah the things he had to say because

962
00:45:09,290 --> 00:45:06,240
people asked him those very questions

963
00:45:11,930 --> 00:45:09,300
you know this these toxic materials are

964
00:45:15,109 --> 00:45:11,940
still running and there's no safety

965
00:45:17,329 --> 00:45:15,119
now he's just

966
00:45:19,069 --> 00:45:17,339
I don't I'm not even sure exactly what

967
00:45:21,589 --> 00:45:19,079
he said but he sounded really meal of

968
00:45:25,730 --> 00:45:21,599
mouth to me you should be coming out

969
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:28,609
yeah if I was if I was in charge of that

970
00:45:32,750 --> 00:45:30,960
hearing I would have got her from those

971
00:45:34,670 --> 00:45:32,760
Creeks where all the fish died and asked

972
00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:34,680
him to drink it if everything's so safe

973
00:45:38,210 --> 00:45:36,240
you know

974
00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:38,220
yeah

975
00:45:43,309 --> 00:45:40,910
that's what I would have done you know

976
00:45:45,829 --> 00:45:43,319
[Music]

977
00:45:51,349 --> 00:45:45,839
yeah it's uh

978
00:45:56,990 --> 00:45:53,650
daily lives make our daily bread here

979
00:46:01,250 --> 00:45:57,000
you know without with that in the back

980
00:46:03,170 --> 00:46:01,260
of our minds and uh you know I got

981
00:46:05,210 --> 00:46:03,180
I had a doctor appointment last week I

982
00:46:07,010 --> 00:46:05,220
got one this one this I can't afford to

983
00:46:10,430 --> 00:46:07,020
be brought into the doctor and stuff

984
00:46:12,650 --> 00:46:10,440
like this yeah man even even the co-pays

985
00:46:14,569 --> 00:46:12,660
you know some people have 50 copays so

986
00:46:16,490 --> 00:46:14,579
that might be 100 out of pocket for you

987
00:46:18,650 --> 00:46:16,500
for two doctor's visits

988
00:46:20,750 --> 00:46:18,660
you know that's not fair it's not your

989
00:46:23,270 --> 00:46:20,760
fault you know you didn't create this

990
00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:23,280
situation why should you lose money out

991
00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:25,920
of your own pocket because of the greed

992
00:46:31,609 --> 00:46:28,560
of some you know I I hate to say it but

993
00:46:33,770 --> 00:46:31,619
they are like an evil Corporation to me

994
00:46:36,170 --> 00:46:33,780
at this point you know

995
00:46:37,390 --> 00:46:36,180
everything that's wrong with with uh

996
00:46:40,010 --> 00:46:37,400
with

997
00:46:41,569 --> 00:46:40,020
capitalism and by the way I have no

998
00:46:44,030 --> 00:46:41,579
problem with capitalism but I don't like

999
00:46:45,950 --> 00:46:44,040
crony capitalism and I don't like evil

1000
00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:45,960
capitalism when you're willing to just

1001
00:46:51,770 --> 00:46:49,200
throw away an entire Town's health

1002
00:46:54,290 --> 00:46:51,780
for profit that's a that's a problem

1003
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:54,300
with capitalism right there the fact

1004
00:46:59,349 --> 00:46:56,880
that they could even get away with you

1005
00:47:03,890 --> 00:46:59,359
know putting at risk an entire town or

1006
00:47:06,650 --> 00:47:03,900
States you know health

1007
00:47:11,329 --> 00:47:06,660
it says a lot about how broken the

1008
00:47:17,450 --> 00:47:14,329
you know I hope I really hope that this

1009
00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:17,460
is just a one-off situation and I hope

1010
00:47:21,770 --> 00:47:19,680
that this is not a sign of some kind of

1011
00:47:25,550 --> 00:47:21,780
deeper rot in this stuff

1012
00:47:28,430 --> 00:47:25,560
because if it can get this bad here it

1013
00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:28,440
could get this bad anywhere I mean what

1014
00:47:34,250 --> 00:47:30,960
if this happens in a big city like that

1015
00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:34,260
train almost made it to Pittsburgh

1016
00:47:39,890 --> 00:47:36,000
this could have happened in Pittsburgh

1017
00:47:43,790 --> 00:47:39,900
it was third about 30 miles 25 miles

1018
00:47:46,130 --> 00:47:43,800
away from the outskirts of Pittsburgh

1019
00:47:48,710 --> 00:47:46,140
they had gotten into Pittsburgh

1020
00:47:50,270 --> 00:47:48,720
what a horrific there would have been

1021
00:47:52,550 --> 00:47:50,280
people that

1022
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:52,560
there have been hundreds of people dead

1023
00:48:02,990 --> 00:47:59,990
just the just an unimaginable disaster

1024
00:48:05,329 --> 00:48:03,000
and those bomb trains are still running

1025
00:48:07,069 --> 00:48:05,339
through the cities as we speak they're

1026
00:48:07,970 --> 00:48:07,079
flying through the cities at a high

1027
00:48:10,970 --> 00:48:07,980
speed

1028
00:48:14,569 --> 00:48:10,980
on a bad bad

1029
00:48:22,190 --> 00:48:14,579
bad rails bad sensors and breaks from

1030
00:48:26,349 --> 00:48:23,510
equated

1031
00:48:28,730 --> 00:48:26,359
it's just carrying this high-tech

1032
00:48:32,510 --> 00:48:28,740
explosive liquid

1033
00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:32,520
yeah it makes no sense

1034
00:48:38,089 --> 00:48:35,520
I mean I I feel like I feel like

1035
00:48:40,730 --> 00:48:38,099
they're this is some sort of new form of

1036
00:48:45,950 --> 00:48:40,740
terrorism or something yeah I know I

1037
00:48:51,470 --> 00:48:48,290
yeah and again I think too of the safety

1038
00:48:54,890 --> 00:48:51,480
we talk about the safety issues like you

1039
00:48:56,809 --> 00:48:54,900
know uh if if you were some sort of

1040
00:48:59,329 --> 00:48:56,819
radical terrorist and you were looking

1041
00:49:01,550 --> 00:48:59,339
for a way to like really cause a lot of

1042
00:49:04,130 --> 00:49:01,560
damage and kill a lot of people

1043
00:49:05,870 --> 00:49:04,140
you know there's a way right there I

1044
00:49:07,609 --> 00:49:05,880
mean they're you're right these things

1045
00:49:09,410 --> 00:49:07,619
are crisscrossing our country there's

1046
00:49:12,410 --> 00:49:09,420
very little security there's very little

1047
00:49:16,309 --> 00:49:12,420
safety protocols or procedures

1048
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:16,319
it's it's uh it's you know a counter

1049
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:29,510
not is it going to happen again but when

1050
00:49:32,930 --> 00:49:30,720
and where

1051
00:49:34,849 --> 00:49:32,940
you know it's

1052
00:49:38,210 --> 00:49:34,859
I've grown up on railroad tracks my

1053
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:38,220
whole life you know trains are

1054
00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:42,000
everywhere and you know here I am like I

1055
00:49:46,910 --> 00:49:44,880
said 25 miles away and that just and I

1056
00:49:49,670 --> 00:49:46,920
was affected

1057
00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:49,680
so

1058
00:49:54,050 --> 00:49:52,079
nobody said here's the thing nobody's

1059
00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:54,060
safe in this country if you're within 20

1060
00:50:03,950 --> 00:49:56,640
miles of a railroad track You're Not

1061
00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:06,710
part of the the crazy thing about this

1062
00:50:10,750 --> 00:50:07,920
is that

1063
00:50:14,809 --> 00:50:10,760
they said that

1064
00:50:17,390 --> 00:50:14,819
when when those chemicals were burned

1065
00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:17,400
because of the varying conditions of the

1066
00:50:21,650 --> 00:50:18,960
atmosphere

1067
00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:21,660
it could have turned into many different

1068
00:50:25,870 --> 00:50:24,000
types of chemicals all of which are

1069
00:50:30,170 --> 00:50:25,880
highly dated

1070
00:50:34,010 --> 00:50:30,180
so it was a boiling chemical stew of the

1071
00:50:36,290 --> 00:50:34,020
most dangerous craziest substances ever

1072
00:50:38,809 --> 00:50:36,300
created by man just blowing through the

1073
00:50:40,430 --> 00:50:38,819
air yeah and then they burnt it on

1074
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:40,440
purpose you know

1075
00:50:45,589 --> 00:50:42,720
well you know a lot and hey I was going

1076
00:50:47,809 --> 00:50:45,599
to ask you a final question here

1077
00:50:49,730 --> 00:50:47,819
um we were coming up on time but you

1078
00:50:52,190 --> 00:50:49,740
know having studied some environmental

1079
00:50:55,849 --> 00:50:52,200
science wasn't there a better way to

1080
00:50:57,290 --> 00:50:55,859
deal with this spill than to just you

1081
00:50:58,849 --> 00:50:57,300
know hey we're just going to blow it up

1082
00:51:01,549 --> 00:50:58,859
and burn it all

1083
00:51:03,710 --> 00:51:01,559
wouldn't there be a better some better

1084
00:51:05,569 --> 00:51:03,720
form of containment that they could have

1085
00:51:08,809 --> 00:51:05,579
used

1086
00:51:17,210 --> 00:51:08,819
well that's the scary part because there

1087
00:51:21,650 --> 00:51:19,030
like they did

1088
00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:21,660
and and that's a best case scenario

1089
00:51:26,510 --> 00:51:24,960
apparently there's no good way

1090
00:51:28,910 --> 00:51:26,520
to

1091
00:51:31,490 --> 00:51:28,920
here's the problem that polyvinyl

1092
00:51:34,670 --> 00:51:31,500
chloride boils at seven degrees

1093
00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:34,680
Fahrenheit so it immediately turns into

1094
00:51:41,630 --> 00:51:37,680
a gas as soon as it hits the air

1095
00:51:43,970 --> 00:51:41,640
and that gas just spreads everywhere

1096
00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:43,980
should a spark hit that it turns into a

1097
00:51:49,910 --> 00:51:45,599
huge Fireball

1098
00:51:53,349 --> 00:51:49,920
so like what they did you know they dug

1099
00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:53,359
these two huge pits and

1100
00:51:59,930 --> 00:51:57,839
the chemicals out of the into the out of

1101
00:52:02,990 --> 00:51:59,940
the cars into the pit as fast as they

1102
00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:03,000
could fill them up and lit it with

1103
00:52:07,730 --> 00:52:05,040
flares and

1104
00:52:08,809 --> 00:52:07,740
that's the best you can hope for in this

1105
00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:08,819
situation

1106
00:52:13,309 --> 00:52:10,559
like those they shouldn't even be

1107
00:52:15,770 --> 00:52:13,319
hauling this stuff yeah

1108
00:52:19,010 --> 00:52:15,780
because there's not there's no good

1109
00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:19,020
solution when one of them derails

1110
00:52:22,490 --> 00:52:21,359
I mean there are situations where if

1111
00:52:25,069 --> 00:52:22,500
they get a

1112
00:52:26,870 --> 00:52:25,079
you know a rescue car in there quick

1113
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:26,880
with all the pumps and everything they

1114
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:28,800
could take care of it

1115
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but like in the wreck we had there was

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00:52:36,349 --> 00:52:33,660
just too much debris there was just

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really no way to manage

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the

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and up you know that's some kind of I

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think what happens some kind of chemical

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reaction started happening in one of the

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cars

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and the temperature was Rising too fast

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00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:56,940
if it had exploded it would have

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00:53:03,890 --> 00:52:59,040
destroyed most of that town just that

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00:53:10,190 --> 00:53:07,190
it turns into a gas that's where you hit

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00:53:12,770 --> 00:53:10,200
that's where the the real danger comes

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in so since they were able to burn it as

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00:53:18,829 --> 00:53:15,839
liquid it sort of mitigated some of the

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effects of it going into a gas from what

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00:53:22,490 --> 00:53:21,000
I understand you know from listening to

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some people

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00:53:27,829 --> 00:53:25,380
some experts talk about it

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00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:27,839
I mean but then again I've heard so many

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00:53:33,410 --> 00:53:31,440
different stories too about

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00:53:35,569 --> 00:53:33,420
how the burn played out and why it

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00:53:39,650 --> 00:53:35,579
played out like it did I'm not even sure

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00:53:43,250 --> 00:53:39,660
exactly what the true story is

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00:53:45,290 --> 00:53:43,260
okay yeah who knows maybe someday we'll

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00:53:47,210 --> 00:53:45,300
find out well I want to thank you for

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00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:47,220
taking the time to uh give us some

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00:53:51,410 --> 00:53:49,440
insight into the whole

1143
00:53:53,870 --> 00:53:51,420
the whole situation especially from

1144
00:53:56,410 --> 00:53:53,880
somebody that's you know local it's so

1145
00:53:59,089 --> 00:53:56,420
much better than me just you know

1146
00:54:01,430 --> 00:53:59,099
sharing news reports and things

1147
00:54:03,349 --> 00:54:01,440
you know and uh please keep me informed

1148
00:54:06,829 --> 00:54:03,359
let me know if your health improves and

1149
00:54:08,750 --> 00:54:06,839
you know or if you have further problems

1150
00:54:10,250 --> 00:54:08,760
and uh you did send me a lot of

1151
00:54:13,430 --> 00:54:10,260
materials which I will share with the

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00:54:16,370 --> 00:54:13,440
audience so I appreciate that as well

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00:54:18,829 --> 00:54:16,380
okay all right thanks very much Jason I

1154
00:54:20,329 --> 00:54:18,839
appreciate it thank you I appreciate

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00:54:23,569 --> 00:54:20,339
your efforts

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00:54:25,609 --> 00:54:23,579
now you may be wondering why the EPA or

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00:54:28,130 --> 00:54:25,619
government isn't doing more

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00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:28,140
and seems to be doing everything that

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00:54:32,329 --> 00:54:30,960
they can to lessen the culpability and

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00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:32,339
blame

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for Norfolk Southern

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00:54:42,109 --> 00:54:39,359
well when in doubt follow the money

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00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:42,119
supposedly he's got a lawyer with twenty

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00:54:57,770 --> 00:54:55,910
is there any Wonder then why Norfolk

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00:55:00,530 --> 00:54:57,780
Southern continues to operate in ways

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that may endanger Public Safety not just

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now

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00:55:06,829 --> 00:55:03,720
but for some communities years and

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00:55:08,750 --> 00:55:06,839
decades into their future with these

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00:55:11,150 --> 00:55:08,760
environmental hazards that they let

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00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:11,160
loose and if you think they may have

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00:55:14,990 --> 00:55:13,200
learned from their mistakes and are

1173
00:55:18,250 --> 00:55:15,000
doing things better now you'd be 100

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00:55:21,890 --> 00:55:18,260
wrong at the beginning of March 2023

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00:55:24,109 --> 00:55:21,900
another Train derailed in Ohio

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00:55:38,569 --> 00:55:24,119
this time it was caught on dash cam

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00:55:44,030 --> 00:55:40,910
did they not review safety procedures

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00:55:46,190 --> 00:55:44,040
after the East Palestine derailment

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00:55:48,410 --> 00:55:46,200
did they not strengthen their own

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00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:48,420
commitment to not letting this happen

1181
00:55:54,049 --> 00:55:52,079
again apparently not the CEO of Norfolk

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00:55:57,170 --> 00:55:54,059
Southern has a lot of words for us words

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00:55:59,510 --> 00:55:57,180
like doing everything we can empty

1184
00:56:00,890 --> 00:55:59,520
promises like we're working hard to make

1185
00:56:04,849 --> 00:56:00,900
improvements

1186
00:56:06,470 --> 00:56:04,859
actions speak louder than words why is a

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00:56:09,170 --> 00:56:06,480
company being allowed to operate like

1188
00:56:10,730 --> 00:56:09,180
this again I think we just need to

1189
00:56:13,069 --> 00:56:10,740
follow the money

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00:56:15,230 --> 00:56:13,079
if you were in a position of power or

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00:56:17,390 --> 00:56:15,240
authority over this company would you

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00:56:19,250 --> 00:56:17,400
stand up and do the right thing would

1193
00:56:21,290 --> 00:56:19,260
you stand up and do the right thing if

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00:56:22,190 --> 00:56:21,300
the company just handed you a bag of

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00:56:28,490 --> 00:56:22,200
money

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00:56:31,970 --> 00:56:28,500
campaign or charitable contributions all

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00:56:33,829 --> 00:56:31,980
very legal but still very corrupt the

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00:56:36,049 --> 00:56:33,839
long-term effects of This Disaster won't

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be known for some time

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00:56:40,910 --> 00:56:38,160
more and more information is coming out

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00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:40,920
now and the original narrative that we

1202
00:56:47,210 --> 00:56:44,400
were all spoon-fed is crumbling let us

1203
00:56:50,210 --> 00:56:47,220
know in the comments here if you want us

1204
00:56:52,549 --> 00:56:50,220
to dig deeper into this story should we

1205
00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:52,559
continue to investigate this one let us

1206
00:56:55,970 --> 00:56:54,000
know in the comments

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until next time friends my name is

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Stephen cambian good night and God bless

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